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1/23/2008

Put HD-DVD out of its misery already!

I have heard that there is an going on on the Internet through which people try to get Warner to continue support for the HD-DVD format. While I understand that no one likes to lose, this is a ridiculous undertaking for a number of reasons.
First of all, does anyone honestly think that can make a difference in this corporate decision? took a long and hard look at its sales numbers and they know how few HD-DVD users are out there and how little revenue they generate. They to understand that these people who put their money behind it do not want to lose their format. They might be executives but they are not retards, people, and they've been looking at these numbers for months now.
Much more importantly however, I think that this petition is pointless because to put if very bluntly, It was the weaker of the two formats form the get-go and it keeps dragging on the war-that-never-should-have-been, resulting in massive consumer confusion and people not adopting high definition at the speed that they otherwise would. For all those of you who haven't heard yet, high definition is the future and yes, it is much better than DVD, and it is backwards compatible, which means all your cool DVD movies will still play on a Blu-Ray player. So go and get one, already. You won't regret it!
I know I will take a lot of flak for saying this, but the fact of the matter is that HD-DVD is done in. It has reached the end of the line and the sales figure prove it as well. After Warner's announcement to abandon HD-DVD the sales figure jumped exponentially resulting in a brutally smashing for high definition players being sold and a 85% market share for high definition software sales, according to NPD Group.
I think the number speak for themselves and the verdict is as simple as it is clear. The world doesn't need HD-DVD and more importantly, , so let's put an end to it and move on already!




Matt
Don't be such a prick... just admit that it's an unfinished product! You're a stubborn ass if you won't admit it! You're just polishing your own johnson with your very expensive "Ferrari with no tires".

You're missing the whole point of my arguement because you're consumed with being a jerkoff and throwing insults... why not have in intelligent conversation to share your opinion? Oh wait! You haven't shared an opinion yet! Just hurled insults and bragged! Use this forum for what it's made for from now on, ok?

2/11/2008 7:02:07 AM


Matt
I bought a Blu ray player that had the best options, and got the best reviews (not many are getting "good" reviews even) and it flickers on at least every other movie... from The Prestige (which DOES look and sound amazing, I'll admit) to Across the Universe, to Terminator 2, to Pan's Labyrinth, to Harry Potter. Just once during each movie for until I pause it and replay... then it resumes as normal.
I have the latest firmware installed (released a week and a half ago) and it litterally jiggles out... NOT 1080p 24p FILM flicker (like is intended) but actually seemes like the signal is jiggling.

2/11/2008 7:01:36 AM


anthony
Why would you buy something you thought didnt work right? Thats like buing something that would become obsolete in about a years time-- oh yeah you did that already. BTW this wknd me and a bunch of friends watched 3:10 To Yuma on the glorious kickass BR and, despite your bellyaching that it doesnt work right, it kicked ass in 1080p (not HD-dvd "i") and thundering 7.1 audio which wowed my guests-- and nobody said, "duhuh.. I dont think it's working right Anthony..duuhh.." So get some more lubrication for that whining which only you seem to be doing. dope.

2/11/2008 3:06:49 AM


Matt
Did I grease up my Blu ray player? No.
I wasn't aware I had to buy it dinner in order for it to work right.

2/10/2008 9:31:17 PM


anthony
DID YA GREASE THAT PLAYER UP GOOD MATT?

2/10/2008 8:56:54 PM


Matt
cont'd:
forget those of us that chose HD DVD first (who are probably LESS likely to choose Blu ray after being sore form their mistake).

Just take it easy pal.
You sound like a retard when you hammer on people the way you do. YOU WIN... I'm a dumbass for chosing the wrong format first... my only arguement remains that, now that Blu ray has all that studio support (and the revenue that comes with it), they should get off their asses and get the machines working the way they should... with no playback issues, final specification AND HD audio processing IN THE PLAYER.

Don't bother arguing... you know I'm right about THAT!

2/10/2008 8:37:02 PM


Matt
I see Hooked on Phonics worked for you!
But Reading for Dummies is one you should pick up... I stated long ago that I traded in my HD DVD player... I am all on board for Blu ray now... but it's an incomplete format still... not as good as HD DVD... YET!! There is NOTHING they've produced on Blu ray in 50gb that HD DVD Couldn't do as well using 30gb. I have no doubt that it will get better in time... just too much to pay for an incomplete format.
And quit dropping the Spielberg card... yes he's a gazillionaire... but he's put out ONE movie so far in HD! And it wasn't his choice to do so! I bet he's waiting, like Lucas, until the dust settles.

I was just bringing the arguement down to your level, you childish buffoon! You started having at all the poor folks who chose the wrong format, when you could welcome them with open arms! They only support your cause if they CHOOSE Blu ray... and your attitude makes people want to choose NEITHER... forget those of us that chose HD DVD first (who are probably LESS li

2/10/2008 8:36:01 PM


anthony
oooo.... Actually I'm a big man who's spanking your sucky decisionmaking backside. You cant even pick the right format when the writing is on the wall, now youre a sex therapist as well. Better a smartass than a blowhard who blew money. Remember, Speilberg is more reputable than you-- he picked the winning format, you didnt, so all of your opinions are for s#%t. waaaaa. Your platitudial bloviating about what specs exist in the world of Bluray does in no way take away from the fact that my BR player delivers a jaw-dropping picture and gut-busting audio, with NO flicker or flaws-- whether you like it or not, so blow up that HD-dvd Toshiba hooker doll with it's vibratin 1080i codecs and have at it. waaaaa.

2/10/2008 7:36:39 PM


Matt
Anthony....You whine like a mule.
I'm not wasting any more time arguing with a punk like you who brags about the "size of his subwoofers". Go sit on your subs... it's the only sex you'll get tonight.
Here's your ticket for the shortbus, kiddo.... what I said was: Only a few Blu ray players have the DECODERS for HD audio built in... and those players DON'T have 1.1 spec. (In other words, unfinished products!)... maybe if you learn to read, you can make sense of those fancy speakers of yours.... smartass.

2/10/2008 6:29:50 PM


anthony
Your yelling little boy. The only waa-waa crybaby is you Matt. YOU blew your hard earned money out your ass, and I didnt. You bought the hooker/pimp's product and I bought the winning product. You say that Bluray is inferior, Speilberg says it's SUPERIOR. Speilberg is a seasoned famous director who HAS respect for movies and quality, and you disagree with him, which makes you nothing but a no-nothing blowhard who gambled and lost on a dud product. And BluRay doesnt leave out DTS HD which is kicking godlike ass out of my 2 (yes 2) Velodyne Dls 5000-r subs. So go back to your room and grind and gyrate on your lackluster Hd-dvd blow up doll and leave the thinking to the rest of us winners. dope.

2/10/2008 5:14:00 PM


Matt
cont'd:
But this is neither here nor there, Anthony. Your opinion doesn't matter simply because you are ignorant and rude.
You might be supporting the winning format.... but it was not because of YOU that the format won. You are a small man who can not even acknowledge the equality of both of these products.
They both have their downfalls.... Blu ray is NOT a perfect product.

I retract my statement about Spielberg... you were right about that... but Lucas still waits in the wings, as he always does.... until years after the war is over.
You won't see Star Wars or Indiana Jones in HD (unless on TV) until 2010, probably.

2/10/2008 10:03:41 AM


Matt
It's all fine and good to "say" you were always so confident, by I know your type... wah wah wah... "I knew Blu ray would win" wah wah wah "You all are cry babies".
You have no respect for movies or quality otherwise you'd at least acknowledge that HD DVD has a superior interface.
The only advantage Blu ray has is storage capacity, and since HD DVD can now do 51gb discs that's even a moot point!
The codecs are the same, so the video quality is the same. Blu ray leaves out the HD audio on some of it's discs that are present on HD DVD ones.
And about that pesky interface... you can't access the menu on Blu ray disc from Pause! What's the point of that?
If you want to access the menu or change the audio, the movie has to be playing? I don't want to be 30 seconds into a movie before the proper sound kicks in!
These are all FLAWS that Blu ray has yet to address because IT'S NOT A FINISHED PRODUCT!!!
But this is neither here nor there, Anthony. Your opinion doesn't matter simply because you are ignorant and

2/10/2008 10:02:31 AM


anthony
A while back when i said Blu ray would be the eventual winner of this war, i was told i was being negative for believing in BluRay. Now i'm negative because you were all wrong. Boo hoo hoo. And for the record: Speilberg and Lucas HAVE voiced their opinions on BR, so dont be ignorant and wrong AGAIN about the facts. Your already wrong in the amount of $ you blew on a format i told you would lose from the getgo. BTW i NEVER had any flickers with 1080p and 24p on my BR player so dream on. And I was still saying BR would win even after Paramount decidied to play whore hooker to Toshiba- and i was right AGAIN. So all of you got bent over and took it like good boys with you final spec dud 1080i (not p) loser players. And i am holier than thou thank you!

2/9/2008 11:33:43 PM


Matt
last paragraph was:
I get so angry when people like you voice their holier than thou attidude when they were silent, shaking in their little boots when Paramount crossed over to HD DVD!
Just be happy with your decision... let those of us who made a mistake be.... and help support the product that WILL survive, ok?
No need to be such a negative jerk about it. (btw, those flicker's ARE in 1080p.... on 24p mode... it's because these players are all still work in progress)

2/9/2008 11:03:50 PM


Matt
p.s. sorry about the typo on your name... it's late :) no disrespect intended

2/9/2008 11:01:47 PM


Matt
Anthonay, while I'm not debating that HD DVD IS dead, at least it was final spec when it came out. AND it had audio decoders built into every machine, so people were not stuck going to buy a new ampifier just to get HD audio uncompressed. Instead we, as Blu ray consumers, have to choose between special features on the media or better audio.... there is NO player that has both yet... and even the skimpy 1.1 players that are out now will be obsolete when the 2.0 spec comes out! I mean come on! Can't we get a finished product out of the gates? And PLEASE don't preach about PS3 being the solution, ok? Any manufacturer who puts a Slot-loading drive for a disc with as thin a coating as Blu ray ones do is asking for trouble! Spielberg and Lucas have not voiced their opinions either... AND Michael Bay is an idiot... can't even decide which side he's on (probably the one who pays him the most).

I get so angry when people like you voice their holier than thou attidude when they were silent, shaking in their little b

2/9/2008 11:00:44 PM


anthony
Matt, sorry you were dopey enough to think Hd-dvd had a chance. Steven Spielberg says its superior, Micheal Bay says its superior, so does Lucas-- theyre BIG professional filmmakers, your nobody-- i trust them more, and Blu ray won. so sorry. My Blu Ray NEVER flickered on 1080P, NOT that lamo 1080i. In the beginning Hd-dvd did not have the best studio support, that being 20th Century Fox, Disney, Paramount, its telling that Toshiba had to BUY Paramount's sole support, like a hooker on the streets. And dont worry, Universal and paramount will HAVE to support Bluray, or they will be the only dopes left supporting a DEAD format. Told ya so long ago.

2/9/2008 7:57:33 PM


Matt
(P.S. oh, for the purpose of this forum: I still hope Universal and Paramount decide to support Blu ray in the near future.... I don't know how much longer I can suffer my SD copy of Transformers! lol)

2/9/2008 10:50:00 AM


Matt
Anthony... you seem very angry, for someone who's on the winning side!
I had HD DVD and swapped over for Blu ray when the Warner deal went through... I was a smart consumer and did my homework.... in the beginning (when they had some good studio support) HD DVD WAS the superior format! You Blu ray fanatics are completely brainwashed.
Even now I think HD DVD is superior! I never had flickering or freezing on my cheapo 1080i Toshiba A20... it was final spec!
My Blu ray player flickers on launch titles that are BRAND NEW discs, even with the most recent firmware!
This war really is more like the Beta/VHS war than I thought! (Beta was better but died out).

2/9/2008 10:46:59 AM


anthony
BTW, the only bozos who want to trash both HD formats and are disgruntled that on format actually is superior, are the suckers who 1) stupidly dumped their $ into the HDdvd format and now look stupid because they did, or 2) just cant afford to get any new format because their incomes suck and daddy wont pay for it so their mad. HD Bluray is here to stay suckers and youre going to have to live with it like it or not. Remeber that the next time youre paying for your lame 480p dvd of Hitman, I Am legend, or Predator. The rest of us will be enjoying the glories of 1080p. suckers!

2/9/2008 5:46:56 AM


anthony
I told you a long time ago Hd-dvd would lose, alot of people on this c.a. blog said i was wrong and bought Hddvd anyway. suckers. better your $ than mine

2/9/2008 5:33:42 AM


dafluppeke
Me!!!
thats calls evolution, it's the way it is!
moving forwards>>>>>
And the future is blu!
end of story!
peace!

2/2/2008 12:55:15 PM


Matt
Not to be critical of anybodies opinions here, but if you can't tell the difference between the quality from DVD to High Def (or from VHS to DVD for that matter) then neither HD DVD or Blu ray are for you. I had this discussion with a group over lunch today and my opinion is this. Both these formats are both in the "early adopter" stage. Yes it makes it easier for consumers to choose by getting rid of one in favour of another... but DVD will be around for a long time to come. If you choose to buy one or the other format, should you trade in your whole existing collection? Heavens no! Would you benefit from buying a movie you don't own already if it's available in High Def? You bet! Let's just try and get one standard High Def format... that way the amount of titles we're offered, as consumers, isn't limited. It would be reeeaaaally nice to see Transformers and Beowulf on Blu ray! (Ok.. that was my shameless begging and pleading)

1/31/2008 1:43:35 PM


Brian
Talk abput all this high def and blu-ray crap you want, but there is no reason to go for anything over regular DVDs yet.

In fact, VHS is still a perfectly good format as well.

1/31/2008 12:59:45 PM


Michael Hurley
I think they should put out both formats and let the people decide. ok ok ok - i did buy an HD player.

1/30/2008 12:05:34 PM


Kris
Michael, how you could you complain about a catalog of classic films? Classic films look horrible in HD in my opinion, takes away a lot of their character. Secondly, blu ray offers roughly 70% of the movie market with Warner on board whereas hd-dvd only offers 30%. I don't think people are going out in droves buying classic hollywood films.

Last but not least, I am glad that hd-dvd is nearly dead. My PS3 not only upscales my regular dvd's with beauty, but my blu ray movies on my 46" samsung look as good as the DLP movie theater does. No reason to go see a movie now when I can just buy a blu ray for a few bucks more and not have to deal with loud people at the theater!

1/29/2008 12:33:38 PM


Bob
Very well written. It's time to end the war. In any war os such, there is always a losing side. Toshiba has lower priced players from the start, and players that had full interactivity and ethernet, and still the big blu beat them every single week of 2007 in software sales, so it was no surprise that Warner went with Blu-ray, considering that in Japan about 94% of player are blu and 70% in Europe, so it surprises me that people actually expected Warner to go red?

The war is over. I think that Toshiba will now start to get alot of pressure from stockholders, especially after spending 2.5 million on a 30 second super-bowl spot with things the way they are. And certainly Universal and Paramount will be highly pressured, as I am sure they are now, by General Electric and Viacom respectively.

All the bitching about pic in pic and internet connectivity being such a plus for hd-dvd (and minus for blu until now) surely didn't mean anything to many consumers, why are buying blu anyway.

It's time for Toshiba

1/29/2008 8:09:51 AM


Matt
Kudos to you, Mike. That is exactly the point here.. that one format has to win in order for progress to be made. I backed HD DVD first because, yes, it was a more complete product. But I am more than happy with my new Blu Ray stuff... more of my favourite movies are Fox and Sony! And to those who are complaining about movie prices... you've obviously never had to buy a $120 Laserdisc! lol $40 is very reasonable for a fully featured HD title.

1/29/2008 8:07:50 AM


Mike
WOW I cant believe all the crap i hear here. Any new format goes through growing pains!!!! Regular Dvd did too when it first started. Ending this format war regardless of the winner is good for everyone. As the format goes mainstream all the movies everyone wants (Old classics included) Will come out. And prices will go down! Every comment by HD DVD or Blue Ray Supporters are going to be biased to thier favorite format...that is perfectly natural.....but in the end what is important is to end this stupid war so High Def will go mainstream and all your favorite movies will come out on high def...cause lets face it, whichever system you have HIGH DEF MOVIES ROCK!!!!!!

1/29/2008 7:54:49 AM


dick long
WHY DONT YOU MFERS GET A EEFING LIFE.

1/29/2008 5:11:54 AM


Michael
The reason I went HD DVD last year as opposed to Blue Ray was a no brainer when I made my choice. The same applies now. The catalog of Blue Ray doesn't offer much in the way of classic Hollywood films in hi def. ROBIN HOOD, CASABLANCA and FORBIDDEN PLANET were available in HD from Warner Brothers but not in Blue Bay.I am not a gamer. I don't want a machine that is going to require numerous updates in order to play all my discs. I have no illusions. If Universal and Paramount don't start giving us large amounts of catalog product soon the towel will have thrown in. And then what will the Hi Def community have? A single format that is never going to be a completely finished product with no competition. You will see disc prices go up not down. I am sure everyone is looking forward to that.

1/29/2008 3:40:10 AM


x
Hey justin,

I did get my head out of my ass, and I went and exchanged my noisy blu-ray player for the Toshiba HD-A2.

My argument is that blu-ray is more flawed than blu-ray fans will admit. I will buy a bd player again as I have several bd movies waiting to be watched. I am a high def fan, not a format fan. But having had the two, I preferred HD DVD because of the titles, the HDi features (which I do watch), and Children of Men was my only problem disc which got cleared up with a firmware update.

By the way, other than it playing HD DVD, I didn't care for the Toshiba all that much. EVERY other player I have ever owned was a SONY. Still use a Sony TV, Sony surround sound, Sony DVD player, and would have gladly bought a Sony HD DVD player had one ever been made.

PS: My impatience has me considered the PS3 again, but only if I can get one that does not have an issue with the fan noise. It was loud to the point of distraction. And really, it was a dusty magnet eyesore piece of equipment. Maybe...I s

1/28/2008 7:43:26 PM


Rocker10
Do you know how funny that looks to say put HD-DVD out of it's misery and then run an ad for HD-DVD right above it. I wish it would go away as well, but you ought to pull the add.

1/28/2008 5:07:44 PM


Luc
Great comments about HD vs. Blu-Ray. Just one problem: I am relatively new to the 'format wars' having decided to wait and see which one prevailed. Can someone go into a little more detail about the 'upgrades', and why I should wait until Summer or Fall of '08 to get a player that will play Blu-Ray discs. Thank You.

1/28/2008 12:12:52 PM


E-Man
From my viewpoint as a home theater buff/consumer. I bought a PS3 back in January 2007 soley for the purpose of watching hi-def content. I then bought a Toshiba HD-30 from best buy ( got 2 free movies with it.) Just so I could watch Tranformers. (laugh if you will.) I am not biased to one format or the next as I gave them both a shot. Now for my critisms.... I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BUY A PARTICULAR PIECE OF HARDWARE JUST TO WATCH A FILM. But I did. I can say this with no bias... I LOVED the user interface of the HD player, BUT ABSOLUTELY DETEST ALL the issues it was having. LONG LOAD TIMES. LOCK UPS ON NEWER MOVIES I.E. TRANSFORMERS. I have had none of these issues on my PS3. I am sorry folks...... but about 15 HD-DVD movies later, I went in to my netflix account and swapped the order of release to Blu Ray and then HD DVD and then DVD. I dont really care for studio wars and money swapping hands, I am VERY picky about convenience however. Maybe I just got a bumb HD player, but I have

1/28/2008 12:12:41 PM


Justin
Hey x,

maybe get your head out of your own ass and realize that there is one player that will always be compatible, the Playstation 3. It has been upgraded to 1.1 and it will be upgraded to 2.0, and from what I've seen, has the best specs for ANY high definition player out there, and it's also the fastest loading player that I've seen. The Playstation 3 won't and shouldn't be a temporary player.

1/28/2008 9:13:02 AM


Mark
Time to give up Toshiba. Your heavilly subsidised players did not crack it, and with studios and retailers dumping you like there is no tommorrow, you HAVE to see it's over. Don't waste any more of your shareholders money on this, and don't destroy the HD movie industry by hanging out in a fruitless bloody war where only consumers will lose.

There is room for you to make Blu-ray players, come join us and move forward...

1/28/2008 9:07:38 AM


Brad Brode
what the hell? This website kept pushing the HD-DVD format since the format war started, now it has switched sides to support Blu-ray? What gives? Holy sellout Batman! Maybe this site has been paid off by Sony as well.

1/28/2008 6:53:18 AM


Anonymous
I wonder if all the people who rushed out and bought Blu-Ray players are aware that come fall their hardware will be obsolete and will not play the next generation of Blu-Ray releases correctly? I want to congratulate Sony for screwing over it's customer base. It is unfortunate that the so-called superior format went into production too soon and will now require an upgrade that will only be available to people who own a PS3. All those who just wanted to watch Hi-Def movies and bought a player will not be able to access the special features on next generation Blu-Ray discs. It is interesting that this over-priced and under-performing product somehow won the format war. I guess we can just chalk it up to Sony's greed and the general public's stupidity.

1/28/2008 1:19:00 AM


Hugo
I jumped into the next gen pool with a PS3 because it seemed the most reliable of the current players and have not looked back. It plays everything I buy and rent and on the rare occasion they get a game not available on the 360 then I'll be able to play it. Fan noise is also non-existent to me, a problem I was wary about when i was considering the 360 add on. Also, upgrading the firmware was so simple a monkey could do it.

1/27/2008 7:29:12 PM


X
All this HD stuff is just a way for Sony, Toshiba and the movie studios to try to get us to spend tons more $$ on equipment and discs. DVDs are perfectly good. I don't need superior picture quality to watch films like CASABLANCA, for example.

Trash 'em both, I say.

1/27/2008 12:54:52 PM


cory
I own the hd dvd drive for xbox 360 and i have no clue why any one would ever bash having anything in high def its idiotic. Are we really being that obtuse to the facts that the warner bros. siding was purely about money and not the consumer cause last i checked the stand alone player ratio was hd 2 to 1 over blu ray Ps3 with standing and the ps3 3 shouldnt be a deciding factor cause unlike the 360 it has crap for games available so sure all those ps3 own have to do something with thier players so they are buying movies til they have a game that will come along and zap their blu ray sells to hell. I own both and have seen a few movies on both and can tell u hd is far superior on picture quality. Until then i will continue to buy good movies hd dvd while blu ray keeps digging from the movie dump bin for titles, One look at actual catalog of movies has had ever one i know that was on the fence settled that hd has such a better selection of movies available un less your into mindless blockbusters or jason sta

1/26/2008 4:03:11 PM


x
**continued**

All I'm saying is that blu-ray is far from superior. It is just as flawed. It may be superior in the future, and it's specifications sure good, but their current players have shown otherwise.

And just my opinion here, but had all studios been neutral to both formats, I'm confident that HD DVD would have more satisfied customers.

1/26/2008 12:56:12 PM


x
I agree that anyone defending either format is annoying. I'm not protecting HD DVD, nor am I slamming blu-ray. I did return my PS3 due to an issue I had with loud fan noise (read up on all the tips on how to take care of it, but still too loud). But I have kept on buying blu-ray discs, planning ahead for when I do get another player.

Doing firmware updates is not the same as having to re-buy a new player all together. For instance, Sony refers to the S2000ES as their flagship player (sonystyle.com); $1300 for something that I would have had to replace in order to gain the benefits of future blu-ray disc releases. Same thing with the more affordable S500 and S300.

Keep in mind, I'm looking for a blu-ray player. I'm hopeful about the newer models coming out (Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic). But right now, and for the last year, every player I came close to buying, owners of the said player would advise to hold off on it.

All I'm saying is that blu-ray is far from superior. It is just as flawed. It may

1/26/2008 12:54:17 PM


Guido Henkel
X,

If only half of what you say would be true I would probably agree. But let's not forget that none of the HD-DVD players is that great either and each one had to go through a series of firmware upgrades to become compliant. Plus, have you ever read the lists of complaints about HD-DVD players per chance? They are unbelievable. I am still dealing with 2-minute boot-up times almost 2 years after the format's launch, to name just one issue, and frequent lock-ups.

It is annoying to me how people try to protect HD-DVD and conveniently overlook everything that's bad about the format while at the same time pretending Blu-Ray were an entirely flawed format. Just as an example I have a PS3 from the first delivery batch and there is not a single disc I have ever had problem playing. At the same time I have a few HD-DVD discs that will absolutely not play on the Toshiba HD-A1.
Like my HD-DVD player, the PS3 was upgraded occasionally with new firmware and is completely profile 1.1 compliant, offers upscaling cap

1/26/2008 11:40:42 AM


x
It's annoying to read how people spew this stuff about blu-ray superiority. BD's specs are promising but not one fully compatible player that will preform the way it should. I currently own blu-ray movies (still sealed) and have to wait until summer 08 to be able to watch them. Maybe...i'm waiting on the newer models that Sony has announced. For the past year, EVERY blu-ray player I decided on, I would read numerous complaints from the owners of those players, and then research the spec sheets just to find out the player would not be fully compliant. Money may be no option to some people, but there was no way I can justify spending $300-400 on a temporary player, only to have to upgrade it a year later.

So please, Sony, get it together on your players this summer. And in the mean time, those with "blu-ray is superior" type of rally cries....get your head out of your ass.

1/26/2008 9:53:36 AM


Josh
While I watch regular dvd prices soaring and still am stunned at why blueray hd discs cost 3x more, I ask myself, Who really cares about HD anyway?

1/25/2008 10:14:46 PM


Don
I could not agree more!

1/24/2008 1:38:45 PM






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